macandcheez20Wed Dec 17 2025 12:04:23 GMT-0800 (Pacific Standard Time)

I'm making one final case for myself because I'm tired of being told to can it while I'm trying to defend myself and rationalize my actions. We both understand that any spoiler incidents that have happened are not intentional. The prior incident falls into this threshold; I went through substantial effort to try to make something I thought was interesting Spoiler Free for the chat, based on Redzy's progression, and made mistakes in the process. Errors happen. Try as anyone might, they're unavoidable. Especially in situations like this where everything from prior relic weapon *stages* to a current bug that is mildly entertaining is still considered spoilers. I've tried to keep up with these standards but you'll have to forgive me if I've slipped out of line a bit. However. I'm not the one who's made personal jabs and stabs for little reason. I'm not the one that has felt it necessary to paint another person as a "spoiler issuer", undermining the good intentions and making mistakes appear as malicious intent or carelessness. I'm not the one claiming to not want people leaving, yet actively behaving towards others in a capacity that causes that very sense of wanting to leave. The least I ask is to be allowed to make my case cordially and respectfully, rationalize my actions and defend myself and make clear my intentions, without being insulted by members of the staff for it. I've tried my best to remain cordial but this has become exhausting. You've GOT to stop making low punches at me when I'm trying to explain myself. It doesn't accomplish anything other than making people feel unwelcome, and presents a narrative that if someone else were to err, they would also be on the receiving end of random personal insults and negative remarks. Also that message in livestream-allspoilers was typed and sent prior to me seeing your message in twitch chat so I'm sorry about that. And I'm sorry about all the other unintentional slipups and mistakes. But I'm not sorry for being frustrated.

phoenixreturnsWed Dec 17 2025 12:16:04 GMT-0800 (Pacific Standard Time)

I do take them as errors, and unintentional, this is the only reason you are still here. do not make out i personally attack or insult you, i do not, i do not low blow you. My responses are not as polite as they would be, or are, to people who do not cause repeated issues, what feels like, every other week, you are a known spoiler issuer, whether intentional or not, otherwise i'd have not said it in the first place, you are one of extremely few, who consistently tread on just the right side of the line to not be banned, but to have to be spoken to. I would really rather not have to moderate anyone, i am the safety net. I do not enjoy, especially this part of it, talking to people in an official capacity, i'd much rather just be a member of the community, as much as i possibly can be. I am not being purposefully mean, and i promise you, it is nothing personal against you, it is becuase of the repeat trip talks i have to keep having with you, and not really anyone else. I have, a few times now, been in your corner, and suggested, encouraged, for you to remain. there is nothing against you, its is purely on the need to keep reminding you of the rules, almost everyone else is finding rather easy to adhere to.

macandcheez20Wed Dec 17 2025 12:33:26 GMT-0800 (Pacific Standard Time)

I've been a community moderator twice, once for a streamer friend and once for a general community. both times I've had someone that got on my nerves, and I tried to maintain professional behavior. And both times I've stepped back because I knew I was slipping, and to behave in a frustrated, *personal* way towards these people while speaking in a moderator capacity would tell the space that the space is only safe if they manage to stay on some staff member's good side. And since both times I was chosen specifically for the position by the community owner, it also suggests that I speak for the owner and staff themselves. Ergo, if I, in a position of power, talked down to someone in the community, that was an agreed upon sentiment from the staff, if not the owner themselves, and attempting to defend oneself was out of the question because That's The Staff. I get that everyone else seems to be able to adhere to the spoiler rules better than I am. It's just as much a mystery to me as it is to you. I don't know how nobody else slips up the way I do. I try my damn best, believe me, so I don't know what the difference is. I'd fucking LOVE to know what secret datasheet or rules list or whatever these people are working off of, because I'm scrambling around in the dark bumping into walls and having to figure out where the lines are drawn by crossing them unintentionally. It certainly seems clear on paper, but there's so many odd things that fall in and out of spoiler rules, seemingly at random, and I just don't get it. All I want is the chance to explain myself, to make sure I'm being understood, to know that the things I'm intending are actually getting through to others, because even though you say that you understand, I can't know for certain you do. Miscommunication and misunderstanding are an inevitable part of life, and unfortunately I'm always at a disadvantage because there's always a chance any little thing I say is not comprehended 100% how I am intending it. And that variation means a lot to me. "you do not need to explain yourself or make your point when it comes to something that isnt confusing, i asked you to leave it there" but I'm not done with it. I don't want to just be written off because you *think* you get what I'm trying to say, when I don't know that I'm making myself clear as I need to. And when I'm being treated rudely, as though I'm a fucking rodent or pest instead of a person trying their damn best, I also want to stand up for myself because god forbid I don't want to be treated that way.

phoenixreturnsWed Dec 17 2025 12:46:54 GMT-0800 (Pacific Standard Time)

written off? no, there was nothing being noted down, recorded, judgment,nothing, all it was, was you wanting to talk about a bug, and i deemed it was not the time or place, and asked you to go to 7.4 where it was safe to talk. i dont know what kind of explanation is needed for that. it was very simple, and i would have said the exact same thing to anyone, it had nothig to do with you other than it was you who asked about it. Yes, you are known to the staff members and other members of the community fopr being someone that whether intentional or not, slips when it comes to spoilers. thats just the way it is, it doesnt cast judgment on you, it doesnt make you a better or worse person, but it *does* mean we have to pay closer attention to you and what you say and/or type, and we would be neglecting our own responsibilites and duty, if we did not do that, or remember your track record, being an 'ex moderator' you *should clearly* understand this*. .. speaking of which. i do not appreciate the wording, or possibly suggestion in your first paragraph, that i may be 'slipping' becuase thats really what it somes off as you trying to say to me. I am not slipping, clearly, i am very on point when it comes to this sort of thing, yes, i am a moderator here, but i also spent over a decade running a gaming website and then discord community of my own. Your feeling of the way i treat you, comes from the repeat moderation you feel subject to, not the way i speak to you, yes, i was short today, and i acknowledge that, but mainly becuase i keep looking for a way to keep you here, rather than take the easy way out, and well within my rights and responsibility at this point, of hitting the kick/ban button, which i seriously hate doing, unless to intentional assholes, which you are not, there does come a point though, this also, as an ex moderator, you should realize, that enough is enough, we are here to have fun, and enjoy ourselves, that includes the staff, and having discussions and repeat 'offenders' i mean in the lightest possible way, takes that away from us too.

macandcheez20Wed Dec 17 2025 12:59:04 GMT-0800 (Pacific Standard Time)

"I do not appreciate the wording, or possibly suggestion in your first paragraph, that I may be 'slipping' because thats really what it comes off as you trying to say to me." you've done the same thing to me. and you misunderstood. I specified slipping as in being unable to perform my moderator duties professionally and respectfully; maintaining community safety without causing unsafety. I *stepped down* from those positions because I could not keep my frustration in check well enough, and could not trust that I wouldn't lash out at whoever happened to be getting on my nerves despite them doing their best to follow the rules. That was my attempt to state that I've been in the very position you are now, and displaying the choice I made.